Free Tibet? Bullshit!
I thought for some time if I wanted to write this. Anyway, here’s my political view.
The world has no lesson to learn from the US which is not an example anyway. How can the US and other countries boycott or scold China for its behaviour? The sovereignty of the land is of utmost importance for China, like the US and other countries. Tibet, Hong Kong and Taiwan are all part of the great China. I do not see why China should let go these lands.
China is not claiming sovereignty on lands in other parts of the world unlike others. So if you want to free Tibet which is on mainland China, you should start with liberating the colonies.
The riot has been caused by an angry, organized faction of Tibetans that took action on Chinese assets belonging to Chinese people. It’s not China’s government that has been affected most. ‘Free Tibet’ is not a peaceful movement. When you read that the Olympic torch is being targetted by the protesters, I wonder of the point of this. Is the torch not a symbol of peace, fraternity and whatever? So, the protesters are against these? I bet these protesters shop at Walmart (which is one of the biggest importers of Chinese goods). And there is nothing wrong with Walmart. Without Walmart, the cost of goods would be much higher and the inflation would not be that low.
So, don’t BS me with these. I, too, can BS and can detect BS. Political correctness? Hypocrisy, I call it.
Eddy Young said,
April 10, 2008 @ 8:15 am
Amen to that!
yune said,
April 10, 2008 @ 1:29 pm
yeah, too right.
Kailash b said,
April 12, 2008 @ 12:30 am
Guess its a question of self determination.
Stéphane Lee said,
April 12, 2008 @ 11:16 am
Yeah, they could start with the Chagos for example.
gerald said,
April 13, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
don’t be so stupide,
i think you are a realy young guy to say that.
Stop thinking china is perfect.
I visit china every 2 month and you must go to see what apen ther
i think you live in a feak and goldy point of view.
Sorry if i disturb your small mind but you must see the thrue.
you live in a free country, tibet is not.
I’m not an activist pro tibet but your words look so stupid.
wake up!
Stéphane Lee said,
April 14, 2008 @ 8:58 pm
Where did I say that China is perfect? Nobody’s perfect and nobody the moral right to give a lesson. China has far bigger problems than Tibet but they are pragmatic.
Akash said,
April 15, 2008 @ 6:52 am
Oy!
Tibet is part of the Asia mainland, not part of China, my friend. China invaded Tibet in 1959, and has harassed the Tibetans since then. And any territory has the right to self-proclaiming independence, irrespective of its size. An example: Singapore separated itself from Malaysia in 1965.
And those who target the torch are not violent: look at the reports well it’s the farcical “security” surrounding it that is.
Now, concentrate on what you do best: reviewing what’s happening locally. I’m a fan of your blog.
Eddy Young said,
April 15, 2008 @ 8:21 am
I think the point Stephane is trying to make (and which I support) is that the rest of the world led by the US presumably seem to be bullying China on the Tibet issue while that is not the only or most pressing issue to address. Take the current food shortage crisis, for instance. Why are there still laws to destroy excessive crop? Isn’t it farcical that lesson-giver governments are imposing production quota while people are dying of hunger (in China even)?
The Tibet issue? Let China resolve that with Tibetans. World hunger? That is something to be active about.
Eddy.
Stéphane Lee said,
April 15, 2008 @ 8:25 am
It did not start in 1959 but 700 years ago where they formed the great china.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8673
c said,
April 16, 2008 @ 3:51 am
check this out
http://lai-mauritius.com/blog/2008/04/16/chinese-unhappy-with-events/
gerald said,
April 16, 2008 @ 2:45 pm
Eddysaid”The Tibet issue? Let China resolve that with Tibetans. World hunger? That is something to be active about”
This is so funny, think like that is like living under crack from a long time!
I can imagine how prood you are to be Chinise or because your parent came from China.
But you have a great chance to just think your Chinise and not realy leave in China.
I have an acces on French, US and Chinise TV the story is not the same.
it’s the same for internet, i have try some words on google in china or some links from my laptop and you can’t found it.
(i don’t write it because your blog gone be directly switched off in China funny no!!!)
This is the reality and fact.
Think Tibet can do something alone it’s like stop a train with your hands.
clive said,
April 17, 2008 @ 10:44 am
@Gerald: Every country has its own pros and cons. China has its human rights issues. But does that justify making this Tee bet thing an international issue just before the eve of the OG? The US too has its own human rights issues but did the international press make an issue out of it??? We are all living under cracks but each of us to a different degree. It’s not a question abt whether one is proud of being chinese or not. You are mistaken abt the issue Eddy and Stephane are trying to raise.
gerald said,
April 20, 2008 @ 5:26 pm
@Clive i’am also part chinise and for my job i spend time in China.
During last 10 years i have seen all the good stuff that apen in this great country, but in the same time i have seen the black side of it.
US and Europe have bad part too ok.
But in china all informations are so fake.
Trust me, you can’t imagine.
Now when i flight ther i meet chinise from europe or other country.
Now they feel more chinise than before and don’t want to see what realy apen around.
I’am sorry to choc you but tibet is just important because lot of river star in it mountain and maybe for lot of other stuff in it earth.
Chinise want tibet but not tibetan.
It’s like the olympic game, this is the best way to show how china is great, not only for the other country but more for chinise in china.
The best way to control is to said “we are the best and you are a part of it!”
something like german in 38…
Tommy said,
June 17, 2009 @ 8:40 pm
@Gerald, hey man if you don’t like China, why do you work there anyways? Maybe you should find another place to work since you think China sucks.
Gerald said,
June 18, 2009 @ 2:13 pm
@Tonny, this is a good question but you made a mistake, I like china but not the way political take.
I actually have 2 factories in china where we build solar system.
I paid my staff 2 times the normal salary and help them in life outside.
I like the story, the food and the country.
But I can’t accept to seen some stuff like Tibet.
But can you accept to seen people in china loosing every thing because the country needs a new factory?
Can you imagine loose your house for nothing when in the same times you now that the local government will receive money for that?
I don’t now where you live but your blood certainly came from china but your life is not there.
It s good to be proud of China I’m ok, but it’s more simple to be it outside China.
I will be proud of China when they (politic) will not only show but think about people.
Tommy, open your mind, they dirt our story and you seen only what you want to be proud.
Joe rice said,
September 10, 2009 @ 7:17 am
http://www.cafepress.com/tibetwalmart
This is a hilarious bumper sticker urging people to “free Tibet, buy Wal-mart” it simply points out the hypocrisy of the people who think they are changing the world by displaying a bumper sticker or getting lit at a concert.
Truley,
Joe
Anonymous said,
December 5, 2009 @ 6:51 pm
@Gerald: Are you by any chance from Quebec or France?
I am not against Tibetans wanting freedom or rights. What I am against is the Western Media. I am not saying China is right either and that they don’t use propaganda, but living in Canada, you can see everything on news channels saying stuff like: “Chinese government cracks down peaceful protesters in Tibet” and “The Dalai Lama just wants his country back”. There are also people everywhere believing everything they see in the news and start marching into the streets with banners saying stuff like “Free Tibet”. The worst part is, many of them don’t know a thing about it. They only know that their favourite anchorman told them that the Dalai Lama is good and the Chinese and Communists are Evil.
One major problem about America is that Americans tend to see the world in black and white. The U.S. and its allies are always right, and whoever is opposed to them are evil, evil people. For example, when the U.S. created the Taliban, it was the solution to all the problems in the middle-east, now, they are all terrorists and America is going to save the world from it by sending soldiers there.
Another problem is that they often don’t really understand what’s happening over there: they just want to get involved. They often think of terrorists as the Middle-Eastern people with turbans that will blow up bombs everywhere and are trying to destroy America (perceived here as the good guys, as usual).
In no way am I supporting the “stupid American” mentality. The U.S., in the end, is just another nation, with both great people, and terrible people. Personally, I blame the government. The government in North America and Europe (not to say that other governments, such as Chinese don’t do so) control the media and use propaganda in a way that discredits their enemies. The main difference is that the latter do so in a subtle way, where they mention both their and other countries mistakes: they say everything, but also lie about countries opposing them (resulting in hiding facts that would contradict their lies), generating a sentiment of hatred towards the latter in the population, protesting against the so-called war crimes and corruption.
Anonymous said,
December 5, 2009 @ 6:53 pm
Hope you reply, even if it’s a little late
Anonymous said,
December 5, 2009 @ 6:54 pm
@Gerald: Are you by any chance from Quebec or France?
I am not against Tibetans wanting freedom or rights. What I am against is the Western Media. I am not saying China is right either and that they don’t use propaganda, but living in Canada, you can see everything on news channels saying stuff like: “Chinese government cracks down peaceful protesters in Tibet” and “The Dalai Lama just wants his country back”. There are also people everywhere believing everything they see in the news and start marching into the streets with banners saying stuff like “Free Tibet”. The worst part is, many of them don’t know a thing about it. They only know that their favourite anchorman told them that the Dalai Lama is good and the Chinese and Communists are Evil.
One major problem about America is that Americans tend to see the world in black and white. The U.S. and its allies are always right, and whoever is opposed to them are evil, evil people. For example, when the U.S. created the Taliban, it was the solution to all the problems in the middle-east, now, they are all terrorists and America is going to save the world from it by sending soldiers there.
Another problem is that they often don’t really understand what’s happening over there: they just want to get involved. They often think of terrorists as the Middle-Eastern people with turbans that will blow up bombs everywhere and are trying to destroy America (perceived here as the good guys, as usual).
In no way am I supporting the “stupid American” mentality. The U.S., in the end, is just another nation, with both great people, and terrible people. Personally, I blame the government. The government in North America and Europe (not to say that other governments, such as Chinese don’t do so) control the media and use propaganda in a way that discredits their enemies. The main difference is that the latter do so in a subtle way, where they mention both their and other countries mistakes: they say everything, but also lie about countries opposing them (resulting in hiding facts that would contradict their lies), generating a sentiment of hatred towards the latter in the population, protesting against the so-called war crimes and corruption.
Anonymous said,
December 6, 2009 @ 11:22 am
Oops, sorry, posted the same thing twice, my bad
ratsac said,
January 2, 2010 @ 5:47 pm
The biggest hypocrisy in this equation lies with the Free Tibeters who will mill down anybody that doesn’t toe their line. You can witness evidence of this on the sites of Tibet Truth (comments section), Jamyang Norbu (comments section), Phayul Message Forum and many of the other anti-China pro-Tibet sites. These fundamentalists are ethnic hate mongering hypocrites who feel no shame in insulting anybody that dares to contribute constructive perspective, this includes non-Tibetans, Native Tibetans from Tibet, historians, researchers, tourists and anybody else that go against their “party line”. They have even lowered themselves to insult Tibetan historian Tsering Shakya. They appear to believe that all of these people who do not hate China and the Chinese in the evil way they demonstrate are “Chinese apologists, running dogs, friends of the brutal regime”. They troll the internet for their prey and will do anything they can to bully voices from www to silence them. Down with Free Tibet racist hate-mongering hypocrites.
Anonymous said,
February 1, 2010 @ 8:25 pm
As I said, the worst part is the fact that western medias and governments cover up the story with their pathetic bullshit.
Gerald said,
February 2, 2010 @ 5:54 pm
hi,
i hope you will go there to see the real think.
so easy to support china from a country like Canada or France.
support china because in 700 tibet became chinise, great!
ok trop nul.
je perds mon temps a lire vos explications douteuses.
le plus simple, restez dans vos petites vies a vous conforter de la grandeur d’un pays ou vous devez passer des vacances de touristes de l’ouest.
critiquer les medias de l’ouest car ils restent critiques, on touche le fond.
dire que les gouvernements de l’ouest cachent la vérité, encore mieux.
ils fermes surtout les yeux pour mieux vendre des trains, avions et autres centrales nucléaire.
en tout cas merci pour cette leçon sur la sélectivité des idées.
avec un peu de chance, d’autres aurons le courage de critiquer leur pays d’origine et ferons changer les chose la bas.
pour le moment, profite bien des truc qui vous rende fière par exemple du train le plus haut du monde, des jo, des projets pour aller sur la lune et de la future expo universelle.
je suis aussi super fière de cela, mais j’ai au moins compris que toute cette débauche n’avais pour but que de nous rendre fière.
Pour info c’est la base du système comme en coree du nord.
la fierté, il n’y a rien de mieux pour motiver et pérenniser une idéologie.
bonne nuit éternel sur vos esprits affaiblies par la recherche d’une identité respectable ou une envie de grandeur.
salut
Anonymous said,
February 4, 2010 @ 8:44 pm
Tu crois vraiment à ce qu’on te dit dans les nouvelles hein? La Chine, comme tous les autres pays a de nombreuses défauts. En ce moment, ce n’est pas le meilleur allié de l’ouest. La Chine, a été avec l’Union Soviétique, le Vietnam du Nord, la Corée du Nord, bref tout le temps contre l’Amérique et l’Europe. La Chine, en bref, est comme un version moins puissante des Soviets. Pendant la guerre froide, on a diffusé de la propagande sur les deux côtés sans arrêt pour discréditer l’autre partie. Penses-tu qu’ils auront peur de le refaire? Je ne dit pas que les chinois, ce sont pas des menteurs, mais que le gouvernement américain voudra détruire cette nouvelle puissance. Toute cette propagande causera des boycottes. Certains gens ignorants arrêteront d’acheter certaines produits, protesteront pour boycotter les Jeux Olympiques ou d’autres facteurs éconimique, ce que le gouvernment serait heureux de faire.